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Pouh a écrit :vu l'écart des chiffres de ventes japonais sur Persona 4 UMA (environ 130 000 exemplaires vendus sur PS3, un peu moins de 10 000 sur X360), Arc System Works ne doit plus trouver ça rentable...
Hum, Persona reste avant tout une licence avec un public Playstation et se veut surtout être un jeu pour les fans, cette différence ne m'étonne même pas.
Pour ce qui est de BlazBlue, il n'y a jamais eu autant de différence entre les deux supports, c'est pratiquement du 50/50, il me semble.
Je pense plutôt que l'exclu du jeu sur Ps3 sera pour le Japon, car en effet, ils n'ont pas vraiment d'intérêt à sortir une version 360 là-bas, Famitsu étant un magazine pour les japs...
5A – a punch that hits a bit higher than the others 6A – an anti-air move 2A – a run-of-the-mill sitting punch 5B – a long-reach move that is good for hitting midair opponents. Builds some nice meter. 6B – an overhead. If the enemy guards it, Amane may fly over them by accident. 2B – a low-hitting attack with good reach.
The C moves are similar to Axl’s chain attacks. The angle changes depending on the directional button pressed, similar to Hazama’s Drive.
Can’t remember any other jumping attacks other than that jC is similar to Hazama’s Drive.
Drive: Spiral
There are 3 levels of the Drill gauge. It increases when you use D moves and decreases over time. The gauge improves the damage of the drill and makes it last longer. At level 3, the drill deals many hits and lasts for about 300 frames (5 seconds).
If you charge the Drill for too long, you can’t use it for a while. His 2D and jD are good anti-airs, but you shouldn’t spam them if you want to use the drill.
5D – attacks forward with a cloth drill on an arm. 2D – thrusts with the drill upward. Probably an anti-air. 6D – a long-lasting attack is performed at a small distance. jD – a cloth drill on a leg strikes downwards. It seems like you can change the angle of this attack, too.
236D - Ninpusen "Hariken"
By itself, this move simply charges the Drill gauge. If you press A, B or C, Amane summons a drill. The A version summons it right before Amane, the B version summons it a bit farther, and the C version summons it even farther. Pressing D cancels the stance.
623C - Juukendageki "Gekiren"
Summons a cloth punch from underground. The exact distance is not specified.
236C - Chuujuurengeki "Raibu"
A charging attack.
214A/B / 236A/B - Chuujinkaihi "Zettou"
A teleport move. Since it can leave Amane hanging in midair, it’s easy to misuse it.
632146C - Kyouryuutokkou "Seijuurensoukyaku"
A charging DD. Lacks invul frames.
632146D - Kaizokusenkou "Goukairasenrenpa"
This is the trailer DD: Amane summons many drills that follow the enemy. The strength depends on the Drill gauge. Doesn’t have any invul frames, either.
Pour le système d'overdrive si j'ai bien compris maintenant on a le choix entre un burst à l'ancienne et le mode overdrive c'est ça? Je ne suis pas sur d'avoir vu des précisions à ce niveau.
Tyc : En fait maintenant tu as le burst défensif (vert) et le burst doré a été remplacé par l'overdrive. Plus de burst doré en fait. Par contre sur Dustloop il parle du fait de canceler un spécial par l'overdrive pour continuer en combo. Pour le moment ce n'est qu'une spéculation.
Retour sur Azrael :
・5D - Swings his arm down for an overhead, applies upper weakness.
・2D - Applies lower weakness.
・6D - Overhead, applies side weakness?
・JD - Applies upper weakness
・J2D - Causes knockdown, wide crossover range, applies lower weakness.
Specials -
○ Gustaf Buster (236A)
Does a punch after a short dash.
○ Tiger Magnum (236C)
→ Cobra Spike (46C during 236C)
→ Leopard Launcher (6C during 46C)
3 stage rekka.
Can chain on whiff, and is pretty much a guaranteed punish if the 3rd hit is blocked.
Magnum has repeat proration.
○ Growler Field (214B)(Chargeable) → Phallanx Cannon (After a successful 214B, 236B)
Anti-projectile guardpoint. Has a hitbox and does damage if next to opponent.
Phallanx can be activated when a projectile has been succesfully guarded, and fires forward projectiles.
○ Sentinel Dump (623C or 22C on downed opponent)
Kanji's Buster attack.
On a not-downed opponent, it launches them in place and hits them as they land.
Special cancelable (on hit?)
○ Variant Crash (236D)(Chargeable) → Variant Charger (When weakness applied, 6 during 236D)
Super armored. Applies upper weakness.
Unblockable if weakness has been applied. Carries more than half-screen like Banishing. 6 for followup. Can also do jump attacks mid-followup.
○ Hornet Bunker (214D)(Chargeable) → Hornet Chaser (When weakness applied, 8 during 214D)
Super armored. Applies lower weakness.
Unblockable if weakness has been applied. Launches them up like P4U's Bokosuka C. 8 for followup.
Distortion Drives -
○ Black Hawk Stinger (236236D)
Long distance rush followed by a punch.
○ Scud Banishment (214214D)
Short range jab. Applies all weaknesses. Damage is somewhat low, around 1100 raw.
Moi qui n'aime pas l'apparence de pas moins de la moitié des persos de BB, là je dois dire que les trois nouveaux sont pour moi une très bonne surprise, ça donne envie de les essayer
Tu rigoles j'espère!!
Que ceux qui sont fans de base des perso au charisme douteux du jeu aiment les nouveaux perso, ça reste logique.
Mais quand comme toi on n'aime pas le style de la majorité des perso je ne vois pas comment on peut aimer ces 3 horreurs.
C'est vraiment dommage car à la sortie de Chrono Trigger, même si je trouvais l'esthétique moins réussie que dans GG, je trouvais certains perso assez réussis. Mais plus on avance plus je trouve qu'Arc Sys perd en inspiration et enchaine les fautes de gouts.
Je trouve les 3 nouveaux carrément dégueulasses visuellement parlant (comme les 3 derniers de Continum Shift d'ailleurs), sans le moindre charisme ni travail fourni.
Ca fait bas de gamme vite réglé pour fan de manga moderne sans la moindre exigence.
Alors je comprends qu'on ait tous des gouts différends mais bon quand même, rare sont ceux qui aiment manger du vomis!
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Je trouve leur design un peu plus simple et je suis content qu'ils ne soient pas des petites filles criardes.
Bon, là où je ne me comprend pas c'est que je les trouves très bien en jeu, mais je les trouve dégueu en artwork donc un début d'entente pour nous
Y'en a deux qui viennent à main nues alors que quasi tout le monde est armé, armes blanches et à feu. Bon esprit, ça me donne envie de jouer avec.
Comme Abel dans Toshinden...
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- Game will release in arcades in 2012 (previously listed for "Winter" which could be anywhere from Dec~Feb)
- The game will be shown next month (Sep) at Tokyo Game Show and will be in a near complete state
- A 2nd location test will be planned and announced shortly (as soon as they make adjustments from this 1st set)
- Story mode will (obviously) follow up immediately after Extend
- All console exclusive features are merely in planning stages; but instead of individual stories like previous games, they'd like to have 3 major scenarios which will intersect and reveal the true ending. You'll be able to switching between characters within a scenario (presumably those involved in the current events)
- Expect the volume of Story mode to rival previous installments
- Console version will include a tutorial (with more "instructor" voices--like how Rachel "taught" you in CS) and an Abyss-like mode
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As we are moving to Ikaruga, we wanted the game to feel completely new. Each and every move, the system, the visuals, the music, sound effects etc.
For example, we have moved in the direction where the time you combo is less. There is nothing wrong with hard combos being long, but we want basic combos to be shorter. To make the matches develop faster, we have lowered the time before you can stand up. If combos are too long we have failed.
Interviewer: Combos are the charm of BlazBlue isn't it? Looks hard to change anything there.
Mori: Yeah, we are fully aware of it. Take away the combos and it is not BlazBlue anymore. But it is not about making combos not connecting, instead just making the game speed higher.
We also want to make the game to have fewer Time Ups, so we are trying to make the characters interact with each other more.
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They talk a lot about the new character designs:
Apparently it is Ragnas voice actor who came up with the idea for Amane.
Mori wanted a character that puts on other characters and made Azrael.
And then he used his orignal plan for Tager, a character that can throw with Drive, and made Bullet.
For you guys who have actually played the story :
Mori: Kokonoe is really popular, if we don't give her a spot, it'll bad right?
Interviewer: So she will be a new character after the current three?
Mori: I would like you to understand that I am a liar...
Interviewer: How about Mikado... ?
Mori: Won't show up in the arcades, but those playing at home have something to look forward to."
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I: You have added new moves to all characters it looks like.
M: If we didn't people would get mad, right? So all characters got at least one new move. Some characters like Noel got a new Astral animation as well.
I: It seems like some characters are missing from the selection screen.
M: Well the story has moved on, so Mu and Lambda isn't there. Well, if you want to know what happened to them, play some story mode after the arcade release.
I: Is there some character you haven't announced yet.
M: Yes, apart from the three new characters, we have really cool boss character ready fore you guys.
I: What, for real?
M: Yes, but it is not a Last Boss, it is just a Boss Character, as the last boss for each characters story is different.
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I: Everyone's eyes is on Litchi right now.
M: Seems so. Some staff members that really like Litchi has put real effort into adjusting her, and added a new special that you can use whether you have the staff or
not.
I: She is really liked.
M: Ability-wise Arakune and Jin really changed. Jins combos have completely changed, so I think players will be confused at first. We made so that Arakune can curse opponent easier, but it also disappears faster. We still need to analyze this loketest but, we are moving in the direction of making the bugs more expensive. Arakune can now also speak.
I: Some characters, like Ragna, haven't changed much?
M: Well, Ragna is the main character so many new players choose him, so we want to keep him simple. We also gave him a cool new move. As Ragna and Bangs power-ups are now overdrives, so that is a little change.
I: Carl and the other hard to use characters, have they changed?
M: Their fighting style haven't changed. As such, we have given them some new tools such player would like. People might get angry with me for saying this, but I think Carl and Arakune are the strongest. It is nothing wrong with hard to play characters are strong.
I: So have you changed the sounds?
M: Yes, we have rerecorded everthing. As P4U got so popular, we have reviewed our Stylish Mode and made it easier.
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I: Did you want to weaken the long-range characters?
M: We didn’t adjust it like that. Since best players from all over the country were taking part in the adjustments, you shouldn’t hope for something like that. If it was that boring, it’d make me angry (laughs).
I: So you’re focusing on all aspects equally. Speaking of the system, you’ve added a new mechanic called Overdrive; what can you say about it?
M: It’s an offensive mechanic that is paired with the defensive “Break Burst” mechanic. Since we didn’t want it to simply counter Break Burst , so Overdrive ended up really aggressive. Since you gain a considerable power boost, the chances of the round ending soon rise considerably. However, since it uses the same gauge as Break Burst, the player has to choose between the two.
I: Aha, so it’s up to the player to decide on which one to use.
M: Yes. The gauge that is used for Break Burst and Overdrive recovers over time, and it carries over between the rounds. If you use it in the first round, you can use it again around the end of the second round. Since I have no idea about the Overdrive’s influence on the fighting scene, I look forward to seeing it in action. By the way, this change isn’t in the build used in the loketest that started on August 6th, but we’re planning to give you improved versions of super-moves while in Overdrive.
I: Putting together the overall improvements and move power-ups, it does sound really aggressive.
M: Yes. I wanted it to have the feeling of decisive advantage when you use it. Do you go for a quick fight and use Overdrive, or do you play carefully and leave it for Break Burst – we believe that choices like that will be happening all the time.
I: When your opponent uses Overdrive, the choice seems to lean towards Break Burst, isn’t it?
M: That’s right. You want to end it quickly if the opponent is using Overdrive. Or you may want to carefully avoid the enemy’s advances, maybe even without using Break Burst. I believe that the exact strategy depends on the character.
I: It does seem like the game is less passive with that.
M: Yes. Instead of making some extreme changes to make the game more aggressive, we went for a way of switching between defense and offense quickly.
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I: Well then, how did you remake the visuals?
M: The main concept behind the new visuals is “Everything you see is different”. Since the story has moved to Ikaruga, every single stage except for Rachel’s has changed completely.
I: Have the stages become more varied, too?
M: Of course. Though there are currently around 12 stages, with such backgrounds as the jungle or the snow-covered stage, there are now many different scenes other than the city landscapes.
I: The character illustrations have completely changed, too.
M: Yes. It’s me who’ve drawn them. Last time, we were using my designs and Kato was drawing them, and this time, we were using Kato’s designs with me drawing them. We decided that the move to Ikaruga was a good enough reason for the change of the artwork’s taste. Actually, you may not notice this, but we also made some changes to the character sprites. I think that Ragna is one of the characters that changed the most.
I: When the changes are as drastic as Noel’s, it shouldn’t be surprising that you had to make her sprites more detailed.
M: Yes. Actually, many members of the staff were angry about Noel losing her hat. Since they had to draw her from scratch, they were like “Why did you have to change it!?” (laughs).
I: (laughs)
M: We were thinking about giving Jin new clothes, too. However, we don’t think that Jin cares about his clothes that much, so we ended up leaving them as is (laughs).
I: Doesn’t care about his clothes? (laughs) By the way, has the music changed completely, too?
M: Of course, all the music has changed, too. Though the existing characters got their themes remixed, Tager’s theme got a completely different feeling to it.
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I: Three completely new characters have been revealed. Can you please tell us something about each of them?
M: Starting with Amane, it was Ragna’s voice actor, Tomokazu Sugita, who brought us his initial concept.
I: What! Which part of Amane was Sugita-san’s idea?
M: The Drive (character’s special ability) called “Spiral” that uses a drill and can overheat, making it impossible to use for a while, and the overall feeling of dancing while fighting.
I: Aha, so Amane fights with a drill?
M: Yes. Amane ended up to be a good design of a long-ranged character. He can pull the opponent in with his cloth, or he can perform a multi-hit attack with the drill. For the experienced players, his fighting style can be summed up as “The character who cares about hit-confirms a lot”.
I: So he ended up as an advanced character for experienced players?
M: Yes. Furthermore, even if you block the drill, the chip damage is still quite large. Also, since he can only fight at the very long range or at the very short range, I do think that he’s going to be played by the experienced players.
I: I can’t remember any other character who cares about chip that much. Moving on, what does Azrael have?
M: Azrael is a soldier that belongs to the same “Sector Seven” organization as Tager, who can implant weak points into the enemy with his Drive, The Terror. The idea is that he puts a curse on you for a short time. When a Drive attack connects, a weak point is put on you, and when it’s hit, your hit stun becomes much longer and attacks gain additional effects. Though his fighting style revolves around finding the way of applying the weak points to the opponent, his attack power is quite high, so you can still fight well even without using Drive. Since his movement is on the slower side, he’s pretty close to Hakumen in terms of gameplay.
I: Did his original idea belong to you?
M: Yes. It was me who came up with this idea. In the whole BlazBlue cast, there was no character that had a reason to furiously fight against every single opponent. Thus, the idea of a “Tyrant character” was born. Both Azrael and Bullet were made specifically to make an impact on the story. This time, when we told the staff about their roles in the story, they were excited about how to derive their fighting styles from it. And then I made new adjustments, and the cycle began anew.
I: Okay, lastly, what can you say about Bullet?
M: Well, she’s quite large-breasted, isn’t she? (laughs) Jokes aside, she’s based on Tager’s initial design that we didn’t use: “You can throw your enemy by pressing the D button”.
I: Though she doesn’t look like one, she’s actually a grappler with strong throws, isn’t she?
M: She’s not simply about throws, more about “Strike throws” that stun the enemy when you hit with them. You quickly throw the enemy and go for a combo right away.
I: Can you escape throws in the middle of a throw combo?
M: You cannot. However, since it’s a strike throw, you can block the initial strike. I think that, out of all the new characters, Bullet is the easiest to play. Not only does she have the strike throws, but she also has a projectile, so the overall balance is pretty good.
I: Will you recommend Bullet to the players who can’t decide on a character to main?
M: Yes. Since she has a great feeling about her, I’d recommend everyone to try her out at least once.
I: Now then, what part are these characters going to take in the story, and how are they related to the existing characters?
M: First of all, as you might guess from his attention to young handsome boys, Amane is interested in adding Carl to his traveling troupe. However, he also interests Rachel for some reason, so there’s going to be some interaction between them, too. This is not related to the story, but you should see Amane’s opening animation. Every single member of his troupe comes out (laughs). His Astral Heat was also a hell to produce; our team members have put all their blood, sweat and tears into it.
I: Sounds like fun (laughs).
M: Azrael has been sealed by the “Sector Seven” organization that Kokonoe and Tager belong to. Since he doesn’t differentiate between friend and foe while enraged, he has put a limiter on himself. Also, since he’s a battle maniac, he doesn’t care about winning or losing in a fight. He’s quite troublesome to deal with for everyone involved (laughs). Naturally, among the existing characters, he has a deep relation with Tager and Kokonoe. By the way, since this installment revolves around Sector Seven a lot, the Sector Seven characters now take a much bigger role in the story. Ah, I almost forgot to say how amazing Yasumoto-san’s voice is, do look forward to listening to it.
I: Indeed, Yasumoto-san’s voice seems to fit him well.
M: Finally, we have Bullet. She, too, is a character that’s related to Sector Seven. When the game is released in the arcades, I recommend you to check out the story mode as soon as possible. I’d especially recommend you to pay attention to Amane and Bullet’s dialogues, since they’re pretty interesting.
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I: Speaking of the story as a whole, moving to Ikaruga means that it progressed a lot.
M: Yes. Initially, we wanted to make BlazBlue into a trilogy, but I don’t feel like it’s going to end anytime soon…
I: It has become a really epic story.
M: Yes. This time, when we’re talking about “the whole story”, we mean the introduction, the development, the climax and the denouement. We’re finally going to firmly conclude the story of the Six Heroes’ past. Since this is the main plot point behind this installment, the title is “Chronophantasma”, the illusion of time.
I: So you pay a lot of attention to the story, too. Right now, the major players are Rachel, Hakumen and Hazama, but Ikaruga is a hometown of Bang. Does that mean that…?
M: Exactly. This time, Bang takes an extremely important part in the story.
I: Aha. The Bang fans must be very excited. By the way, Kokonoe is still not playable, even though she seems to be even more important this time…?
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I: Such attention to the story certainly is surprising for an arcade fighting game, even though it will have a home release.
M: It’s all because many BlazBlue fans have expectations for the story, too.
yoanna330 a écrit :Beau lapsus "chrono trigger" au passage
La vache ouais!!
J'ai fais un mixe du 1er et du dernier qui au final donne le titre d'un chef d’œuvre d'un autre genre 17 ans d'âge.
yoanna330 a écrit :Bon, là où je ne me comprend pas c'est que je les trouves très bien en jeu, mais je les trouve dégueu en artwork donc un début d'entente pour nous
Ben après ça leurs coups et leurs styles de combats sont vraiment pas mal (le trave un peu moins que les autres), de ce côté là pas de soucis ça rend bien.
pef30 a écrit :le dernier famitsu annonce une sortie sur PS3 pour cette hiver?!
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T'es sûre? C'est pas plutôt le jeu en arcade cet hiver et juste une annonce comme quoi la version Ps3 et d'ores et déjà prévue mais bien plus tard?
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2ème Loc-test en Août 2012.
Sortie Arcade prévue en 2012 (90% de chances que ça sorte avant le 1er Janvier 2013 selon M. Mori, producteur de la série).
Source : ITW Famitsu d'il y a deux jours. http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/13019595.html
Y' a de grandes chances que ça sorte autour du 20 Novembre 2012 en arcade (y'a qu'à regarder les dates de sorties de BB1 et Shift) et fin Juin 2013 sur consoles. (source moi-même )
SI T'ES UN SAC, TANT PIS ET AMUSES TOI…
donc un début d'entente pour nous 
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